Sabelo Mcinziba and Dr. Serawit Debele
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Abstract
- Abstract
- In this episode of the Cluster Conversations, artist fellow Sabelo Mcinziba talks with his host Dr. Serawit Debele about his residency and the exhibition “With his hands” that he has curated in Bayreuth during his stay. The exhibition tells people’s life stories through the medium of hands as narrative portals. He also shares how his ideas about being “human” flowed into his curatorial work.
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- Title
- Sabelo Mcinziba and Dr. Serawit Debele
- Language
- English
- Podcast series
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Cluster Conversations
- Date
- July 19, 2024
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- Extent
- 33 minutes, 52 seconds
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- Episode number
- 24
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Speaker 1: Cluster Conversations, a podcast by Africa Multiple.
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Speaker 1: Okay, hello everyone. Thanks for tuning into the latest episode of our Cluster Conversation. My name is Sarah Witte Debelé. This morning, I'm going to be in conversation with my friend and colleague Sabelo Mncube from South Africa, Cape Town, who is here at the Bayreuth Academy as an artist in residence, and I have the pleasure of serving as his host. And we will begin by introducing Sabelo to you, and I'm going to invite him to do that because I wouldn't know where to start if I tried that. So Sabelo, over to you.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I will start at the beginning. I am Sabelo Mncube from Gaka Street in Zolethembu, Worcester, in the Western Cape in South Africa. I am in Bayreuth to curate an art exhibition called With These Hands. And it's an exhibition that was really started when I listened to Sarah Witte's wonderful presentation at the University of Cape Town a couple of years ago on revolutionary mothering. And I was curious to explore this question further and how mothering and hands is so connected, but beyond mothering as well, that hands are doing a lot of other things. And I was curious to find out how people in different walks of life use their hands in their everyday to articulate their humanity. And so that's how this exhibition idea started. And I'm grateful to the University of Bayreuth for making it a reality for me. So it's wonderful to be here. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thanks. Yeah, this is really exciting and I'm flattered obviously. But so among other things, I know you think deeply about the question of the human, the question of the human in relation to land, the question of the human in relation to race and blackness, and the question of the human in relation to contemporary political developments. And so I wanted you to reflect on how the, you know, the exhibition and beyond that, the work that you do beyond the exhibition on hands…
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